Sabtu, 15 Februari 2014

Oven left on 4 hours w/ food - health risks?




David


This morning, my wife and I woke up with tremendous headaches, and there was an awful smell. We live upstairs, so the smell was the worst up there. Come to find out, my older brother (lives with us) left the oven on with a pizza in it... For FOUR HOURS. He got home drunk, put it in, and fell asleep.

Most concerning is the fact that our 7 mo. old has been super cranky today. My wife tells me that it has been quite the pain trying to get our baby to calm down. We have passed it off as teething or ear aches. Which is possible. But I imagine if we have crazy bad headaches, it has to be worse for her. She screams when given toys, teething toys, held (90% of the time, if she is held, she won't cry), and has been hard to put down for a nap.

My question is - Can there be health risks to scorching a pizza in an electric oven for four hours? Carbon monoxide? Dioxide?



Answer
Well. let's take worst case scenario. If you completely burn a 1lb pizza made of pure starch in an oven and converted ALL the carbon in that pizza to carbon monoxide (which is worse for you than CO2) you would have this much CO produced

1lb x (453.54g / lb) x (1starch unit / 162g) x (6 CO / 1starch unit) = 16 moles of CO molecules.

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according to this MSDS for CO
http://www.mathesongas.com/pdfs/msds/MAT04290.pdf
the LC-50 for a rat via inhalation (ie.. the concentration and time to kill 50% of a test population of rats) = 1800ppm for 4 hours.

Now rats aren't people, but usually that toxicology data is within an order of magnitude of people. So lets just say.. 1000ppm for 4 hours is going to give a major headache!

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for every 1000 ft² of living space.. assuming you have 8ft ceilings.. and assuming the temp is about 25°C, so that density of air = 1.2 g / dm³.. you have this much air at any point in time.

(1000 ft² x 8ft) x (12 in / ft)³ x (2.54cm / 1in)³ x (1 dm / 10cm)³ x (1.2g / dm³) x (1 mole / 29g) = 9.4 moles of air

so you can easily see the CO could displace all the air giving you >>1000ppm of CO for 4 hours.

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now.. That's probably not what happened. You still still have some pizza charcoal left. Part of that pizza was water. Water is just vaporized.. The sauce contains water, the cheese contains moisture, whatever else. You have a vent over your stove. to allow some of the gases to escape. You have a HVAC system moving air around your house. Houses aren't airtight. etc. And usually only a small fraction of combustion goes to CO instead of CO2.

And of course, if you have a gas oven, that could produce CO.. And I'd guess you've run your oven for 4 hours before without getting sick (albeit without vaporizng your food right?)

So instead of 100% CO in your atmosphere, you have had 1000ppm.. who knows? It's certainly possible, you were CO poisoned by this fiasco. (btw.. a carbon monoxide detector would have detected this!).

Regardless. This is your health on the line. If you still have headaches after reading my answer here and if your child is still uncomfortable, get fresh air and seek medical attention immediately.

What could cause both my mother and me to have nausea, dizziness, chills, and headaches?




Sean C


It started on New Year's Eve when I had a terrible migraine. (And no, alcohol was not involved.) I ended up going to bed that night at 9:00 because the room was spinning and I was very nauseous. I had a hard time sleeping because anytime I moved I thought I was going to be sick. And then in the middle of the night, I had (sorry if this is too much info) bad diarrhea. But what was most strange, my mother suffered the EXACT symptoms that night - she in her bedroom, me in mine. So initially I thought carbon monoxide. But that can't be; we have carbon monoxide detectors in every room, including the basement. And we felt fine all day.

I was fine for a few days until last night, when the SAME thing happened to me. I had migraines, dizziness, (diarrhea), nausea, and the chills. But my mother was fine. But tonight, my mother now has it again but I don't.

Now, we're both fine during the day. What's up??? Now I read that the symptoms are signs of pregnancy. Impossible: my mother's almost 50 and I'm a 21 year-old male.

I was just wondering if anyone has any idea what the cause could be. Thanks!



Answer
Diarrhea is caused by a virus . Sounds like a stomach virus or flu. Drink Gatorade to replenish the electrolytes you are loosing every time you go to the bathroom so you don't dehydrate. Try the BRAT diet ( Bananas, Rice ,Apples & Tea) its great for stopping diarrhea naturally without any meds. You might want to stick with drinking only out of 1 personal glass so as not to spread the germs back and forth. Hope you both feel better soon.




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